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Is oem Ohlins better than Oem Showa?


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#1 ALWIN848

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 10:23 PM

I am thinking of switching to oem Ohlins off of 1098s should I go for TTX instead? Suggestions and experienced welcome please....

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 11:01 PM

I'm going to put a ttx on my 1098s.I think the oem ohlins is a little better then the showa, but the ttx is much nicer ,well at least I do know for sure on my supermoto . I had a revalved and sprung for my weight stock shock , I put a properly set ttx on it and it planted the rearend much better .

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 02:21 AM

I think I should go for the TTX. thanks tweave!

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 04:17 AM

Aftermarket Ohlins will be miles better simply on the basis that the one who will sell it to you might just throw in a custom spring and maybe valve job.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 03:40 PM

Any good info on the DU515?

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 04:17 PM

wac said:

Any good info on the DU515?

I have it on my bike and no complains, I really don't play with it, it was set up for my weight and that's it.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 09:37 PM

I am not a pro at the track. How often do I need to change my settings on suspension...based on track conditions...? I set my sag and I am fine with the settings. If I get the TTX that is adjustable, again how often or when do I need to change settings.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 09:51 PM

Depends how many tracks you go to. If only 1, chances are you will start on a setting and will need to change settings as you progressively go faster - harder on gas, harder on brakes, later and harder on brakes, more corner speed, etc. there's also the grip level of the track itself.

if you switch tracks, it'll be recommended you change settings. i have settings in sears point that is just wayyyyyy to stiff for thunderhill, and i need to have all the absorption possible in thunderhill before it was repaved.

of course, when i say change, i'm referring to the local track tuner or whomever does your suspension (and calling him/her). i usually prefer to have at least preload, sag, compression and rebound set when the suspension is on the bike. cuz if not, you'll be starting with some kind of baseline and have to call your tuner to let them know what is going on during the day and make the changes yourself at the track.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 10:09 PM

Wow. Nicely said. Thanks. I've only been to one track only. I am moderate.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 02:42 AM

I've had experience with all three and this is my take on it:

- The Showa units on my 848 were rubbish. Forks were acceptable after respring and re-valve (Race-Tech) but the rear shock was little better.

- The Stock Ohlins rear shock from my SF was swapped onto the 848 and was a huge improvement, but

- The TTX36 (used on both my 848 and SF) is better again across all different riding conditions (road/track)

It's true that the stock Ohlins is far lower spec than the "factory-spec" units (I've heard that the stock Ohlins is Chinese-build, compared to Swedish-built for the TTX/etc - anyone??)

If you're not going to use the bike frequently for the track then the TTX is probably overkill. You could try to respring/revalve your existing Showa, but from my experience save yourself the bother and just upgrade to the stock Ohlins....the difference in ride/handling is worth it.

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 02:47 AM

ALWIN848 said:

Wow. Nicely said. Thanks. I've only been to one track only. I am moderate.

I'll sell you a new DU515 for a good price if you need one.
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Posted 26 January 2011 - 01:02 PM

Got a DU515 on the mail, track time at Jennings.





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