Kneedown!

[Peet]

Guidelines:

http://users.telenet.be/peet/Fun/Kneedown.jpg


The king:

http://users.telenet.be/peet/Fun/lean_angle.jpg

The wannabe:

http://users.telenet.be/peet/Fun/KneedownKing.jpg

http://users.telenet.be/peet/Fun/KneedownKing2.jpg

[infg35]

This should be renamed Peets lesson of the day!!!!!

[consolidated]

I've leaned 60° before, it then kept going to 70°, 80°, and 90° (strange noises), then the bike did 360°'s in the air (no noise), next thing I know my leathers are being cut off, and someone is asking me if I know what day it is.

[phoenix]

Dont you just hate it when they cut off perfectly good leathers

[consolidated]

Dont you just hate it when they cut off perfectly good leathers

yeah, I don't know what's worse, that or your fellow racers asking for dibs on parts of your bike before it even gets shoveled into the back of a truck. LOL

[Rhett]

I'm going to sticky this, this is one of my pet peeves....... seeing people dragging knee with there bike at 10 degrees..........

Great thread.

[qqqqqqqman]

I'm going to sticky this, this is one of my pet peeves....... seeing people dragging knee with there bike at 10 degrees..........

Great thread.


Gotta agree on that one! One guy I met on a group ride kept bragging how he drags knee and destroy pucks....then I see him and he rides like that in the canyons :rolleyes


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[nucking_futs]

I've leaned 60° before, it then kept going to 70°, 80°, and 90° (strange noises), then the bike did 360°'s in the air (no noise), next thing I know my leathers are being cut off, and someone is asking me if I know what day it is.

:crackup

I've had my Aprilia Factory leaned over pretty good before, far enough where I thought the side fairing was going to touch the tarmac. My toe slider and footpeg were scraping but still no knee down. I think it's my damn leathers, if they're too tight according to the article that may be the problem.

[RRnold]

Forget a knee, how about an elbow! :notworthy

http://www.specialmag.it/foto/big/foto11067-20.jpg
http://www.specialmag.it/foto/big/foto11086-4.jpg
http://www.specialmag.it/foto/big/foto11086-7.jpg
http://www.specialmag.it/foto/big/foto11041-4.jpg

[IcePick06]

:crackup

I've had my Aprilia Factory leaned over pretty good before, far enough where I thought the side fairing was going to touch the tarmac. My toe slider and footpeg were scraping but still no knee down. I think it's my damn leathers, if they're too tight according to the article that may be the problem.

:1. I can drag knee all day in my 1 piece leathers (size 42), but I cannot drag knee in my 2 piece leathers (U.S. size 30 pants) as they fit VERY tight. However, I've tried a size 32 pants and the knee sliders were down to my ankles so I think it was safe to say the pants were too big :lol Kneedragging on the street is overated & usually unsafe anyway as there are varying degrees of concrete and all surfaces (although they look similar) are not created equal--blame that on your state's transportation budget.

There is a fine line between hanging off enough to give maximum traction and exaggerating the body position too much where you don't have much control on the clipons. I think these are good articles on the subject for street & track riders: http://www.sportrider.com/ride/146_0006_motorcyclist_riding_position/ . http://www.sportrider.com/ride/RSS/146_0310_motorcycle_riding_position/

This is a pic of me a while back learning how to drag knee in a safe environment; a nicely paved, BIG, EMPTY parking lot. I suggest other people learn to do the same in a similar environment and NOT on the street :poke
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3933/blackkawmg8.jpg

[Peet]

Ok, let's use this thread to post pics of our own kneedowns:

With the gixxer:

http://users.telenet.be/peet/K5/04.jpg

With the F4-1000R:

http://users.telenet.be/peet/MV/Actie/Bochtjefull.jpg

Personally I don't think a parkinglot is a good place to learn kneedowns. Pick out a nice corner without guardrails or trees and learn it there.

GreetZ

[IcePick06]

Peet are you serious? How is a canyon road with a bunch of potential hazards (animals, motorists, debris, etc.) a "safer" place to learn kneedragging than a nicely paved, empty parking lot. Essentially, in a parking lot you can set up a curve with cones or something and hit it at about 45-50mph...the optimum speed for learning the technique IMO. Let's say a rider crashed practicing the technique; I would bet $100 he would have less damage to himself, his bike, and his ego in a parking lot as opposed to a sweeping corner on a nice backroad...my $.02 anyway

[Peet]

Peet are you serious? How is a canyon road with a bunch of potential hazards (animals, motorists, debris, etc.) a "safer" place to learn kneedragging than a nicely paved, empty parking lot. Essentially, in a parking lot you can set up a curve with cones or something and hit it at about 45-50mph...the optimum speed for learning the technique IMO. Let's say a rider crashed practicing the technique; I would bet $100 he would have less damage to himself, his bike, and his ego in a parking lot as opposed to a sweeping corner on a nice backroad...my $.02 anyway

Sorry mate, that's just my opinion. When you practise in a curve there is more chance that the beginning rider, focuses on the curve and not just to get that knee on the ground. It's not to get that knee on the ground that is the most important. It's to enjoy taking the curve in a smooth way that is most important. You try that and the kneedown will come automatically.

GreetZ

[DrGonzo]

Ok so heres my wreckless knee down pics!

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/DrGonzo615/Palomar-Edit1-1.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/DrGonzo615/Palomar-Edit2-1.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/DrGonzo615/Palomar-Edit3.jpg

[Rock]

Nice!!!!!

[RRnold]

My turn!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/abasada/Turn7.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/abasada/arnlow2-1.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/abasada/Palomar.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/abasada/WSIR_081206_8755_resized.jpg

[Rock]

My turn!

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/abasada/Turn7.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/abasada/arnlow2-1.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/abasada/Palomar.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/abasada/WSIR_081206_8755_resized.jpg

RR, get your Haga lid and.... Nevermind. SKILL$!!!!

[IcePick06]

Sorry mate, that's just my opinion. When you practise in a curve there is more chance that the beginning rider, focuses on the curve and not just to get that knee on the ground. It's not to get that knee on the ground that is the most important. It's to enjoy taking the curve in a smooth way that is most important. You try that and the kneedown will come automatically.

GreetZ

True. One shouldn't focus on getting their knee down as it comes automatically due to riding with the proper body position and technique. Still, it can be a nervous experience the first time you touch down and I think it's safe to experience that in a closed environment. FWIW, I've known several other "good" riders learn the body position technique in a closed parking lot and it helped them--not so much the knee dragging but just getting used to hanging off the bike with the proper body positioning. Reason being that if you go around the same left hand or right hand turn several times (in a closed course or whatever) you focus more on perfecting your "basic" body position... then you can manipulate it for different turns with different speeds in the real world. :)

[qqqqqqqman]

A couple pics from Pahrump, near Vegas

[OPM955]

Sorry mate, that's just my opinion. When you practise in a curve there is more chance that the beginning rider, focuses on the curve and not just to get that knee on the ground. It's not to get that knee on the ground that is the most important. It's to enjoy taking the curve in a smooth way that is most important. You try that and the kneedown will come automatically.

GreetZ

I agree with Peet to just let it come in a 'natural' way on the street. If it doesn't - you can still be very quick with a smooth riding style! :)
Yes, first touchdown feels great - but pushing for it on a parking lot sounds a bit excessive to me...

[Peet]

@all: nice pics!!

[R1Racer49]

Peet are you serious? How is a canyon road with a bunch of potential hazards (animals, motorists, debris, etc.) a "safer" place to learn kneedragging than a nicely paved, empty parking lot. Essentially, in a parking lot you can set up a curve with cones or something and hit it at about 45-50mph...the optimum speed for learning the technique IMO. Let's say a rider crashed practicing the technique; I would bet $100 he would have less damage to himself, his bike, and his ego in a parking lot as opposed to a sweeping corner on a nice backroad...my $.02 anyway

Sorry mate, that's just my opinion. When you practise in a curve there is more chance that the beginning rider, focuses on the curve and not just to get that knee on the ground. It's not to get that knee on the ground that is the most important. It's to enjoy taking the curve in a smooth way that is most important. You try that and the kneedown will come automatically.

GreetZ

I agree with Peet to just let it come in a 'natural' way on the street. If it doesn't - you can still be very quick with a smooth riding style! :)
Yes, first touchdown feels great - but pushing for it on a parking lot sounds a bit excessive to me...

I don't know about you guys but the first place I got my knee down was turn 4 at Laguna-Seca. I'll never forget it and I can't think of a better place to "pop your cherry" :greg

[Rhett]

I'll say it once more............ when I'm riding on the street the last thing I want to do hit hit my knee on the ground.... lol


I'm not so sure why people think dragging your knee is a "cool" thing to do....

Half of these pics fall into the "Wrong way" pics in the first post....

of course no offense meant.

[DrGonzo]

I'll say it once more............ when I'm riding on the street the last thing I want to do hit hit my knee on the ground.... lol


I'm not so sure why people think dragging your knee is a "cool" thing to do....

Half of these pics fall into the "Wrong way" pics in the first post....

of course no offense meant.


Care to share some constructive criticism about form? (I always welcome pointers!):scooter

[RRnold]

I'll say it once more............ when I'm riding on the street the last thing I want to do hit hit my knee on the ground.... lol


I'm not so sure why people think dragging your knee is a "cool" thing to do....

Half of these pics fall into the "Wrong way" pics in the first post....

of course no offense meant.

True, riding on the streets can be very dangerous but for some ironic reason, I kind of miss it since the last time I rode was last summer!?! There are so many nice roads and the weather is so nice that a ride through some canyons always makes a weekend that much more enjoyable!

About body form, everyone has their own since everybody comes in different heights, weight and experience. Case in point, look at Mick Doohan or Norick Abe! Those guy's forms are all crossed up but it works for them! True that 60 degrees is the ideal lean angle but honestly, how many people think to themselves while they are in a turn, "shoot, I'm 53 degrees when I should be @ 60 degrees, push more"!

[Peet]

I'll say it once more............ when I'm riding on the street the last thing I want to do hit hit my knee on the ground.... lol


I'm not so sure why people think dragging your knee is a "cool" thing to do....

Half of these pics fall into the "Wrong way" pics in the first post....

of course no offense meant.

If you ride the shit out of your bike on the streets, your knee will hit the road sooner or later.

And everyone had his own style. A few examples of guys with a different style, but yet very fast:

http://i13.tinypic.com/2lxijb8.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/4dnlny0.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/4320x9h.jpg

http://i5.tinypic.com/48qucu1.jpg

http://i5.tinypic.com/2d9a8mp.jpg

GreetZ

[jadesportster]

Haga on the R7 FULL TILThttp://members.tripod.com/dave_fanner/hag3.jpg

[IcePick06]

I agree with Peet to just let it come in a 'natural' way on the street. If it doesn't - you can still be very quick with a smooth riding style! :)
Yes, first touchdown feels great - but pushing for it on a parking lot sounds a bit excessive to me...

I know plenty of guys who ride VERY FAST both on the track and street and have never touched their knee down. Also, nobody is suggesting pushing for "dragging knee" it in a parking lot; instead, I suggested getting used to riding in the correct body position in the parking lot, since a lot of street riders don't use the correct body position in conjunction with the counter-steering technique. If you have the correct body position and counter steer effectively, and you are going fast enough, your knee will naturally touch down...read a Keith Code book or attend a school if you don't believe me on that.

In either case, the BEST SOLUTION would be to perfect any of these steering techniques on the track; this solution incorporates my theory of riding in a safe, closed environment away from cars, trees, etc, while also utilizing Pete's theory of focusing on hitting the apexes and following the turns rather than dragging a knee :slam

[phoenix]

For every action there is a reaction, Knee down = Drag, Drag = Friction, Friction= Less speed, Less speed = slower lap times

[IcePick06]

For every action there is a reaction, Knee down = Drag, Drag = Friction, Friction= Less speed, Less speed = slower lap times

Not necessarily true. I suggest you watch the documentary "FASTER" in which many Moto GP greats like Schwantz, Roberts Sr. and Doohan explain the knee dragging technique and how it evolved. Dragging a knee is better than dragging hard parts, as the latter will definitely slow you down if not cause you to crash. Kneedragging is just a gauge that helps you determine exactly how much lean angle you are using...if knee dragging was really a slower way to go around the track and Valentino Rossi (arguably the greatest racer of all time) typically wears out a couple sets of knee pucks every race weekend, than something is very wrong here :poke

[RRnold]

Kneedragging is just a gauge that helps you determine exactly how much lean angle you are using...if knee dragging was really a slower way to go around the track and Valentino Rossi (arguably the greatest racer of all time) typically wears out a couple sets of knee pucks every race weekend, than something is very wrong here :poke

Exactly Mark! I haven't seen a knee puck that was resistive to the ground! :dunno

The knee dragging was introduce by King Kenny and Barry Sheene who also introduced the back protector! :notworthy

I don't understand why riders tent to frown upon wheelies, draggin knee. We're riding sport bikes, not cruisers for crying out loud, it comes with the territory!

[Rhett]

Care to share some constructive criticism about form? (I always welcome pointers!):scooter

No because I'm sure there are more qualified people to do this than me.... lol The first post in this thread is a good start. :beer

True, riding on the streets can be very dangerous but for some ironic reason, I kind of miss it since the last time I rode was last summer!?! There are so many nice roads and the weather is so nice that a ride through some canyons always makes a weekend that much more enjoyable!

About body form, everyone has their own since everybody comes in different heights, weight and experience. Case in point, look at Mick Doohan or Norick Abe! Those guy's forms are all crossed up but it works for them! True that 60 degrees is the ideal lean angle but honestly, how many people think to themselves while they are in a turn, "shoot, I'm 53 degrees when I should be @ 60 degrees, push more"!

Yes for sure, but do you see them sticking there knee out to touch the ground? Nope, not at all.... he is actually holding it in as close as he can so he doesn't touch.

If you ride the shit out of your bike on the streets, your knee will hit the road sooner or later.

And everyone had his own style. A few examples of guys with a different style, but yet very fast:

http://i13.tinypic.com/2lxijb8.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/4dnlny0.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/4320x9h.jpg

http://i5.tinypic.com/48qucu1.jpg

http://i5.tinypic.com/2d9a8mp.jpg

GreetZ


These pics are great.... but again you don't see any of them where he is sticking his knee out to touch the ground. Most professional racers don't want to touch the ground, they do it because they are that far over and to touch now and then to get a sense of there lean angle.

I knew this would push some buttons when I posted but again I'm not trying to pick on anyone who posted pics of themselves at all.

I just don't see the "Bling Bling" about sticking your knee out so it will touch the ground or hanging off the seat with your foot on the end of your drag so your feet drag as well. It cracks me up when I see this.

Yes if you are riding hard on the street you will get close and you will have to be careful not to touch down.

I have a corner coming home to my house that I always have to make sure my foot is pretty high on the peg or I will touch down every time..... it's not something I care to do.


The point of Dragging knee is cool, if it's done because you are at an extreme lean angle....... if you aren't and you are just sticking you knee out to touch or hanging off the bike until you do then it's just squidly IMO.

Again these are just my thoughts.... lol no harm meant guy's.

[jamesmccain]

wow awesome information on knee dragging, thanks alot... It helped clarified some things...

[duc1098]

Here's some knee down of me last year.

[IcePick06]

These pics are great.... but again you don't see any of them where he is sticking his knee out to touch the ground. Most professional racers don't want to touch the ground, they do it because they are that far over and to touch now and then to get a sense of there lean angle.

I knew this would push some buttons when I posted but again I'm not trying to pick on anyone who posted pics of themselves at all.


The point of Dragging knee is cool, if it's done because you are at an extreme lean angle....... if you aren't and you are just sticking you knee out to touch or hanging off the bike until you do then it's just squidly IMO.

Again these are just my thoughts.... lol no harm meant guy's.

I agree :1 and That's exactly what I was saying. It is a guage of how far over you are leaning. Granted, professional racers (and certainly Moto GP racers) try to keep their knees tucked in to a certain degree, but not necessarily because the friction of their sliders slows them down "so much". Instead, they are merely adjusting their lean guage. Why? Because Moto GP riders have the priviledge of riding on the stickiest tires in existence with the largest contact patch @ full lean; therefore, they don't need to hang off of the bike as much as say somebody riding on Michelin Pilot Powers or even DOT Michelin Pilot Race tires.

[Rhett]

I agree :1 and That's exactly what I was saying. It is a guage of how far over you are leaning. Granted, professional racers (and certainly Moto GP racers) try to keep their knees tucked in to a certain degree, but not necessarily because the friction of their sliders slows them down "so much". Instead, they are merely adjusting their lean guage. Why? Because Moto GP riders have the priviledge of riding on the stickiest tires in existence with the largest contact patch @ full lean; therefore, they don't need to hang off of the bike as much as say somebody riding on Michelin Pilot Powers or even DOT Michelin Pilot Race tires.

Yes.... I agree 100%

:beer

[RRnold]

Either way, if you are crossed up, centered on the bike or not leaning enough, you are gonna crash.

Honestly, seeing pictures of yourself is an excellent way to critique your body positioning and help correct what areas you need to work on, "kissing those mirrors", leaning off a tad bit more, squaring your shoulders etc. It's a hell of lot different perspective when on your on the bike vs looking at images of yourself. My .02

[KaTooM]

Some good info here. I have touched my knee down, but very rarely, I tend to pull it in when I touch down, out of reflex. :dunno

I just got back from Buttonwillow a couple of hours ago, and saw Chandler sr. pull his knee in real quick after passing me, and touching it down right on the inside curbing. :notworthy

I got the chance to share track with a bunch of real fast racers today. I am on the bottom of the "Fast group" normally. but these guys really let reality set in.

I tend to hit the apex a little to far to the inside to stick it out there with a curbed corner. I will have to work on that.
The fast guys tend to come in a little deeper, late braking, and lean in so far my jaw drops. (Good body position) I got alot of work to do!!!

By the way, I have past a few riders on the out side of corners while there knee is down and mine is not even close.:poke

[DesmoDog]

For every action there is a reaction, Knee down = Drag, Drag = Friction, Friction= Less speed, Less speed = slower lap times

This would only be a valid point if racers went through turns at the bike's top speed. As it is, any amount of friction a sliding knee puck might provide could be compensated for by entering the turn that much faster - which wouldn't be much.

Brakes = friction = less speed too, but more powerful brakes don't equal slower lap times.

[OPM955]

I know plenty of guys who ride VERY FAST both on the track and street and have never touched their knee down. Also, nobody is suggesting pushing for "dragging knee" it in a parking lot; instead, I suggested getting used to riding in the correct body position in the parking lot, since a lot of street riders don't use the correct body position in conjunction with the counter-steering technique. If you have the correct body position and counter steer effectively, and you are going fast enough, your knee will naturally touch down...read a Keith Code book or attend a school if you don't believe me on that.

In either case, the BEST SOLUTION would be to perfect any of these steering techniques on the track; this solution incorporates my theory of riding in a safe, closed environment away from cars, trees, etc, while also utilizing Pete's theory of focusing on hitting the apexes and following the turns rather than dragging a knee :slam

I agree with the TRACK being the best place to improve your riding style. With that should come kneedown at some point, no need to PUSH for anything! :cool

[R1Racer49]

http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/enhance/view/large.do?containerID=1202948866&elementID=163454060549&page=1&pageName=enlarge&sortCode=5
A bad camera phone pic of a picture I have on my wall in my office. But you get the idea, my knee is being pushed back towards the chassis as I determine the max lean angle. On my old R1 the way I had it set up, I could lean until the inside of my knee touched the chassis before the front would let go. A well sorted race bike.

[Hwy1&17]

my old V-twin
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/2/4923070345.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4814232)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/2/4923070366.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4814231)

my new L-twin
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/2/4923070330.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4814230)
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/2/4923070216.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4814229)

and nothing like dragging elbow on a buddies B-Boz :sweat
http://img1.putfile.com/thumb/2/4922481093.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4814084)


Eddy :cool

[Rock]

OK, I'll play. At the point I started gettin' it down on the street in several locations I knew I needed to take it to the track.:

[emullo]

Eddy :cool

Looking good! :notworthy

And one of me.

http://www.sporthoj.com/gallery/uploaded/1864/dsc_0171mindre.jpg

[phoenix]

Its posted on another thread but what the hell :)

http://forum.alcohol-soft.com/paul/16.jpg

[R1Racer49]

Oh no, what did I start? Another squidly "I got my knee down" thread. 20 Lashes for me, I deserve them :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip

[Rock]

Oh no, what did I start? Another squidly "I got my knee down" thread. 20 Lashes for me, I deserve them

21, JUST for good measure.... :whip

[DesmoDog]

Oh no, what did I start? Another squidly "I got my knee down" thread. 20 Lashes for me, I deserve them :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip:whip :whip :whip :whip :whip :whip


Lashings take too much energy, let's keep it simple.

:kicknuts

You're welcome.

:)


I feel sorry for dial up users...

[DucaWim]

Lashings take too much energy, let's keep it simple.

:kicknuts

You're welcome.

:)


I feel sorry for dial up users...

dial-up... :limpdoes that still exist :popcorn :laugh

[Earache]

I can't get my knee down. Must have something to do with my riding postion...

[DucaWim]

No No... it's just the underground your riding on is not good for kneedowns... ;)

[DuanneB]

All I could find...

[thommy]

I can't get my knee down. Must have something to do with my riding postion...
At least you have to try!
:laugh

[senedane]

Took till the second page before someone pointed out what I thought was obvious: Practice racing skills on a race track.

I know plenty of guys who ride VERY FAST both on the track and street and have never touched their knee down. Also, nobody is suggesting pushing for "dragging knee" it in a parking lot; instead, I suggested getting used to riding in the correct body position in the parking lot, since a lot of street riders don't use the correct body position in conjunction with the counter-steering technique. If you have the correct body position and counter steer effectively, and you are going fast enough, your knee will naturally touch down...read a Keith Code book or attend a school if you don't believe me on that.

In either case, the BEST SOLUTION would be to perfect any of these steering techniques on the track; this solution incorporates my theory of riding in a safe, closed environment away from cars, trees, etc, while also utilizing Pete's theory of focusing on hitting the apexes and following the turns rather than dragging a knee :slam

[jamesmccain]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/jamesmccain/Ducati%20Track%20Day/IMG_1610.jpg

this is the closest you get for a knee down that a picture is taken with...

notice the cool shades, and you can't tell, but im jamming to some music w/ my shuffle. =) track days ftw.

:scooter


:cool

[Boostedxt]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Boostedxt/turn9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Boostedxt/lefty.jpg

Joe

[Poppy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Boostedxt/turn9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Boostedxt/lefty.jpg

Joe


Joe, what track is that in the photos?

[Boostedxt]

Pueblo motorsports park in pueblo colorado...:)

Joe

[desmoone]

My perfect corner....

from Italy....

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n244/desmoone/desmo-curva-mini.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n244/desmoone/Valle1.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n244/desmoone/Misano1.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n244/desmoone/1mini.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n244/desmoone/2mini.jpg

[DucaWim]

My perfect corner....

from Italy....

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n244/desmoone/desmo-curva-mini.jpg
belle...belle... or something like that

[Zoeperman]

2824

2825

2826

[knedrag]

Here is my addition:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/knedrag/kneedown.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b383/knedrag/trackdaysep12004.jpg

[HooKerzNbLo]

All I have are some pretty bad quality ones. I still haven't had a chance to have a pro shoot some pictures of me. Maybe this year...


http://www3.telus.net/public/vidr6/matt2.jpg


http://www3.telus.net/public/vidr6/spokanekneedown1.jpg


http://www3.telus.net/public/vidr6/spokanekneedown2.jpg

[bong]

It's currently raining here in Seattle (what's new!) so though I would post some pix from Thunderhill and Miller:
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/bong1098/HT4U8869.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/bong1098/06DW-AGrpAMMMRMD138.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o248/bong1098/88779180-O.jpg

[rb_duc]

It may not always be 100% necessary but it sure is fun!

[Harry]

http://www.velocemoto.net/galleryimages/748rimage2.jpg

http://www.velocemoto.net/galleryimages/748rimage3.jpg

http://www.velocemoto.net/galleryimages/748rimage.jpg

[raceace]

Here is a picture of me during a AFM race on 4-29

[Poppy]

Here is a picture of me during a AFM race on 4-29


Reminds me of Spies' riding position! What track is that?

[raceace]

At infineon exiting turn seven

[1098BANDIT]

here are a few pictures of me when I had my R1 ..!! :scooter

[R1Racer49]

here are a few pictures of me when I had my R1 ..!! :scooter
Looks like streets, yes? That R1 must have been a handful on that track, I know mine was!

[1098BANDIT]

your right the 1st 3 pics are from streets the other 2 are from Big willow and yes the R1 was a hand full at the track I miss it sometimes when I'm lonely not next to my 1098!!!!!

[slob]

Okay Beat This !!!

[benjybobs]

Id like to try getting my knee down but i dont have any knee sliders or cant understand the correct sitting position on the bike. does the sliders go on the front or the side of the leg and how should you sit. I have tried hanging off the bike but not leaning too far as i dont fancy testing my leathers out lol. Im not sure if im hanging off it correctly. I will purchase some sliders but i need to know where they should be fitted and how to correctly hang off. I do like leaning my old ducati 900ss over but i keep my knee well into the bike at the moment due to lack of sliders.

[R1d2]

Ooo I want to play. Here is me at Thunderhill. I think this is turn 1

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8187/r1duc1zi5.jpg

[netridah]

having fun with the 50's :

http://www.alexulbricht.com/galleries/50day/images/IMG_0483.jpg

http://www.alexulbricht.com/galleries/50day/images/IMG_0630.jpg

and on the track: (Streets of Willow)

http://www.alexulbricht.com/galleries/class/images/_I7G4484.jpg

[20Hz]

hey I thought this was a kneedown thread not kneenearlydown or kneealmostdown :)

[Reckless]

Here's the only shot I have so far, it me going down the south grade of palomar.

[Reckless]

Here's one of Me on my 04 R1 @ big willow.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8051/willow53006smallqi5.png

[emullo]

Linkoping racetrack..finished 6th on that race.

http://www.lms.se/roadraci/photoalbum/images/20070701-LMS-RR-B-race-Bo_Hedlund/0006.jpg

Photo Bo Hedlunnd
http://www.lms.se/roadraci/photoalbum/

[Peet]

Nice pic!

[XTIAN8]

http://a46.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/97/l_152939407ed36ff3e6c228e94dd2fca5.jpg

[GBH]

Man those two pictures from the OP at the beggining with those 2 guys dragging knees but the bikes are straight up and down must be a goof. I mean, come on that cant be real you would have to hang of the bike like a monkey to get your knee down, its got to be a goof. Funny as hell though.

[IcePick06]

Id like to try getting my knee down but i dont have any knee sliders or cant understand the correct sitting position on the bike. does the sliders go on the front or the side of the leg and how should you sit. I have tried hanging off the bike but not leaning too far as i dont fancy testing my leathers out lol. Im not sure if im hanging off it correctly. I will purchase some sliders but i need to know where they should be fitted and how to correctly hang off. I do like leaning my old ducati 900ss over but i keep my knee well into the bike at the moment due to lack of sliders.

Just hang one butt cheek off to the side you are turning (i.e. if you are turning left, hang your left cheek off the seat a little bit), then just stick out your knee and try to "kiss" your left mirror (if turning left) and rest your right arm on the tank while dropping your left arm at a 90 degree angle (this will vary if your style is like Ben Spies aka "Elbowz"). If you are going faster you will obviously use more lean angle and thus it will be easier to drag your knee. But if you talk to any racer, the knee dragging thing is more of a gauge to feel how well your tires are gripping for a given lean angle, but it does look "cool." I don't even think about it anymore, as it just "happens." In fact, most of the time on the track I'm pulling my knee in so that it doesn't drag as much and I can use more of my lean angle; again it is a gauge that lets me feel the tires and how well they are gripping.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2417/fontana2dr5.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8035/fontana3xa8.jpg

[1098BANDIT]

Just hang one butt cheek off to the side you are turning (i.e. if you are turning left, hang your left cheek off the seat a little bit), then just stick out your knee and try to "kiss" your left mirror (if turning left) and rest your right arm on the tank while dropping your left arm at a 90 degree angle (this will vary if your style is like Ben Spies aka "Elbowz"). If you are going faster you will obviously use more lean angle and thus it will be easier to drag your knee. But if you talk to any racer, the knee dragging thing is more of a gauge to feel how well your tires are gripping for a given lean angle, but it does look "cool." I don't even think about it anymore, as it just "happens." In fact, most of the time on the track I'm pulling my knee in so that it doesn't drag as much and I can use more of my lean angle; again it is a gauge that lets me feel the tires and how well they are gripping.






kneedraggin 101 for ya right there

[MI1098]

My post of self-love...

http://www.freebmw.net/don/grattan_June_2007/GN060207_0157_8X11.JPG

[skydiver_33460]

Here's my last track day at Roebling.

[1st Duc]

This is the form I'm looking for... Shoulder down, one cheek off, not so much lean for the bike... NICE!

My post of self-love...

http://www.freebmw.net/don/grattan_June_2007/GN060207_0157_8X11.JPG

[MI1098]

Thanks. Here are a couple more from my last trip to Grattan with my sharkskinz on... http://www.freebmw.net/don/Grattan_07-07-07/resources/media/01default_st/large/GN_070707_0032_A.jpg

http://www.freebmw.net/don/Grattan_07-07-07/resources/media/01default_st/large/GN_A_070807_0462_J.jpg

http://www.freebmw.net/don/Grattan_07-07-07/resources/media/01default_st/large/GN_A_070807_0319_J.jpg

http://www.freebmw.net/don/Grattan_07-07-07/resources/media/01default_st/large/GN_A_070807_0415_J.jpg

And yea...I now know where I scraped my bodywork...

http://www.freebmw.net/don/Grattan_07-07-07/resources/media/01default_st/large/GN_A_070807_0238_J.jpg

[DrGonzo]

new one

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e27/DrGonzo615/paly7-15.jpg

[MI1098]

And from behind...

http://www.freebmw.net/don/Grattan_07-07-07/resources/media/01default_st/large/GN_A_070707_0243_L.jpg

[mcskeeto]

OK, is not the 1098. It's too pretty to put down at the track.

[chris410]

Good pics, the slower you go the more you need to hang off to get the knee down. Faster you go...well, as many of us know it's actually easier.

Here's a pic from my last race through T-10 at Summit Point.

http://www.dcsportbikes.net/photoplog/images/10268/1_Untitled-9.jpg

[KRG]

MI1098,

Wow, that is some VERY consistent body position and as close as I have seen a texbook body position:

Butt off the bike, shoulders square, head down, low arm 90 degrees, high arm along the tank...

More impressive is the body position between these two photos is pretty much exactly the same. Hats off to you!

http://www.freebmw.net/don/grattan_June_2007/GN060207_0157_8X11.JPG

http://www.freebmw.net/don/Grattan_07-07-07/resources/media/01default_st/large/GN_070707_0032_A.jpg

Cheers!

[chris410]

Two people I passed into turn 6 at Summit

http://www.dcsportbikes.net/photoplog/images/11435/1_WAM_3029.jpg

BTW...I pick up my hypermotard tomorrow morning! :-)

[chris410]

And from behind...

http://www.freebmw.net/don/Grattan_07-07-07/resources/media/01default_st/large/GN_A_070707_0243_L.jpg

Nice picture man...you look like Colin Edwards!

[DrGonzo]

Nice picture man...you look like Colin Edwards!


Thats not very nice! :crackup

[pengyu]

T15. Sepang International Circuit on my ex-bike..yeahhh an SP2!:)

http://w2.bikepics.com/pics/2007%5C04%5C26%5Cbikepics-877096-full.jpg

[emullo]

4th place on this race.

http://www.nordicbott.net/resultat/2007/karlskoga/martan/bott5_002.jpg

[DucaWim]

nice pic emullo and congrats on the 4the place

[chris410]

Thats not very nice! :crackup

Wait...I meant that as a compliment!

:sweat

[Hwy1&17]

4th place on this race.

http://www.nordicbott.net/resultat/2007/karlskoga/martan/bott5_002.jpg


I see nothing :dunno



EDIT: now it's there!

[bwhip]

Two on the new "S" last weekend (didn't yet have Sharkskinz so I was taking it easy):

http://www.bwhip.com/images/1098td2.jpg

http://www.bwhip.com/images/1098td4.jpg

...and on my other bike (CBR600RR):

http://www.bwhip.com/images/62c-e.jpg

http://www.bwhip.com/images/j.jpg

[Turbo329]

Here's my addition

http://gallery.mvagusta.net/albums/turbo329/QF1M0887.jpg

http://gallery.mvagusta.net/albums/turbo329/SBT_6926edt.jpg

http://gallery.mvagusta.net/albums/turbo329/13JL5432edt.jpg

Hopefully I'll have one with a 1098 in the future.

[Turbo329]

4th place on this race.

http://www.nordicbott.net/resultat/2007/karlskoga/martan/bott5_002.jpg

This is a GREAT shot! :cool

[20Hz]

Here's my addition







Hopefully I'll have one with a 1098 in the future.

nice little stable of bikes there man :)

[Reckless]

Thought I'd add to the fun, oh and I added my second girl friend to the pix

[chris410]

This is a GREAT shot! :cool

Turbo...if I may give you some input :notworthy...try to hang off the seat more. In your pic you have a good lean angle going but your butt is not off the seat very far. Eventually, this will cause you to crash.

Please do not take any offense :shock just trying to help, I see a lot of people doing that at the track and in races and those are the guys that always end up on the pavement.

I'm sure the other racers/trackday riders will back me on my input so again, I mean no disrespect by my suggestion.

however...great pics!!!

-Chris

[Turbo329]

Turbo...if I may give you some input :notworthy...try to hang off the seat more. In your pic you have a good lean angle going but your butt is not off the seat very far. Eventually, this will cause you to crash.

Please do not take any offense :shock just trying to help, I see a lot of people doing that at the track and in races and those are the guys that always end up on the pavement.

I'm sure the other racers/trackday riders will back me on my input so again, I mean no disrespect by my suggestion.

however...great pics!!!

-Chris

You make a valid point and I agree with you. Unfortunately, I don't run aftermarket rearsets and with the stock peg position on the bikes, it's hard for me to hang off more than what you see in the pics.

This winter I will equip all three bikes with aftermarket rearsets. Probably Acculigns. My friend's MV was used as the prototype for Acculign rearsets so they are now available for MV. This should dramatically improve my riding position.

Btw, I would never get offended by constructive criticism. Any pointers that will help me to improve are always welcomed.

As a side point, when a person can't get his butt off the seat all the way for whatever reason, he should do what I do (in my humble opinion) and keep his chest and head OUTSIDE of the bike to help stabilize the chassis. This prevents me from crashing.

[Turbo329]

nice little stable of bikes there man :)

Thx.

[DesmoLin]

My feeble attempt at getting my knee down. Still have lots to work on:

http://x7c.xanga.com/1fcc347015535147645487/b109643185.jpg

http://xab.xanga.com/54bd837537d30147645431/b109643133.jpg

[qqqqqqqman]

My feeble attempt at getting my knee down. Still have lots to work on:

http://x7c.xanga.com/1fcc347015535147645487/b109643185.jpg

http://xab.xanga.com/54bd837537d30147645431/b109643133.jpg



For a public road, that's good enough! IMO you should keep a little more in reserve when not on the track :)


**

[commoto]

At the track yesterday on my Hypermotard S yesterday.


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1165/1437097610_578d0eb588_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1107/1436133023_600be35a4d_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1071/1436204225_52ff2e79cb_b.jpg

[chris410]

As a side point, when a person can't get his butt off the seat all the way for whatever reason, he should do what I do (in my humble opinion) and keep his chest and head OUTSIDE of the bike to help stabilize the chassis. This prevents me from crashing.

I would agree with that 100%...any weight you can get to the inside of the bike will help it turn in better and also give you a bit more stability.

Hope you get everything worked out!

[chris410]

excellent pics of the hyper...I'm hoping to get mine out to the track next year if I have time between racing and everything else.

For now, I really need to get my suspension sorted out...front end is all over the place. I swear they have everything dialed in full on the front because it is very very stiff. I'm going to adjust it a bit tomorrow and see if that helps.

[chris410]

This is me at the last race weekend of the CCS 07 season in turn 7 at VIR.

http://www.dcsportbikes.net/photoplog/images/11435/1_chris_turn7.JPG

[IcePick06]

I just saw this pic from Palomar Mtn. This guy is one second from catching his leg underneath the bike and crashing...do not drag your knee like this guy :shakehead:

[commoto]

Boy, he is trying really hard to get that knee down! What horrible style/form.

[Reckless]

I just saw this pic from Palomar Mtn. This guy is one second from catching his leg underneath the bike and crashing...do not drag your knee like this guy :shakehead:

Oh dam, what's that guy thinking of? He's going to loose it soon.

[Pamani]

I just saw this pic from Palomar Mtn. This guy is one second from catching his leg underneath the bike and crashing...do not drag your knee like this guy :shakehead:

looks like his foot is about to slip off

[fuzzykeith]

Just noticed your helmet cam setup - what is it and how has it worked for you?Two on the new "S" last weekend (didn't yet have Sharkskinz so I was taking it easy):



...and on my other bike (CBR600RR):

http://www.bwhip.com/images/62c-e.jpg

[Savior Six]

My feeble attempt


http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z84/libunaoj/KneeDown_edited.jpg

[brettmess24]

My addition..

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b119/brettmess24/Picture1514.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b119/brettmess24/Picture1736.jpg

[Ducatibomber]

Me on my 2000 R6, September 2007.

Turn 1 at BeaveRun Raceway Beaver, Pennsylvania, USA.

"Who says your bike has to cost $20,000 to have fun!"

Ride safe!
AA

[Piranesi]

Some 1098 kneedowns at Road Atlanta, Barber and Nashville. Also a couple shots of the RC51 backup bike before it's new paintjob.

[Peter VR Mortsel]

This is me with my 996 on a trip in Germany!

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee124/Peter_VR_Mortsel/?action=view&current=MOV02626.flv

[Peter VR Mortsel]

And once more.

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee124/Peter_VR_Mortsel/?action=view&current=MOV02621.flv

[I-want]

:badgerslayernice!!!!!!!!!!!

[sixtysix]

I have to put my knee down; as slow as I am if I didn't, I'd fall over.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a71/hubert_/motorcycles/trackdays/raceday14ab.jpg

[Duc]

My first track day!.... at Losail Intl circuit.

If you look closely at the slider my knee was down a couple of times. They just missed it in this pic.

[Roadrunner]

A few from the local track
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g240/Zx11pilot/eventpictures_1910243_original.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g240/Zx11pilot/mz.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g240/Zx11pilot/eventpictures_1910113_original.jpg

[Ducatibomber]

Round #1 WERA Northeast regional race at VIR.

[poji duke]

Here's my kneedown on track day at Thailand Circuit.

[desmolvr]

Here are a couple from Laguna Seca. The only dry session for the day.

[KaTooM]

Streets of Willow, on a great day...3-3-08

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh97/katoom916/streets7.jpg

[kwikryder]

THill 03/31/2008

Pictures by GotBlueMilk.com

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/TJLeviste/RO5SA/2-1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a203/TJLeviste/RO5SA/MF1A6287.jpg

[CW AF 03]

I don't have any pics of the 1098 on track yet, so my honda will have to do...
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/CWAF03/285644860_L6emP-M.jpg

[Ilari]

http://www.fastpicz.se/traningar/080429_tisdagstraning/medium/IMG_2726-019.jpg

http://www.fastpicz.se/traningar/080429_tisdagstraning/medium/IMG_2888-044.jpg

http://www.fastpicz.se/traningar/080429_tisdagstraning/medium/IMG_2692-015.jpg

[DucDave]

Here's my kneedown on track day at Thailand Circuit., the second photo is right and righteous. Big style points
:+1

[SteveNunez]

Yeah Poji's right turn is nice- max lean angle there.

[DesmoLin]

some updated pics after my 2nd track day:

http://xab.xanga.com/0fdc640461332189630056/b145874288.jpg

http://x42.xanga.com/eeaf0be619c39189770779/b145996928.jpg

[brettmess24]

Not the best quality but a cool pic IMHO.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b119/brettmess24/IMG_0806.jpg

[Phil]

cool pic, but walls and bales of hay scare me!

[brettmess24]

cool pic, but walls and bales of hay scare me!

Your not the only one.:bangwall

[Sebastian]

me racing my old F3, CCS Summit
me on my old R6, VIR
me racing my old R6 at Summit

[mad modder]

lol, a few pics, not a single one knee down. oh well. I'll get a good pic eventually

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/hardcharger_photos/bike_pics/my%20bike/DSCF1603.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/hardcharger_photos/bike_pics/my%20bike/DSCF1598.jpg

[Hwy1&17]

yesterday at Infineon

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/hwy1&17/AFMRound3Infineon2008013.jpg

[mad modder]

yesterday at Infineon

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/hwy1&17/AFMRound3Infineon2008013.jpg

awesome pic

[Phil]

yesterday at Infineon

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/hwy1&17/AFMRound3Infineon2008013.jpg

Very nice. Lucky dog! :scooter

[2000750]

Here's a few from my first track day (with the 1098).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/ImperialRed/pueblo1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/ImperialRed/pueblo.jpg

[HurricaneDuc]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2237/2530302296_4327e0158b.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2530327012_c29060e67e.jpg?v=0
Track day at Pahrump with my ol CBR

[duccekrille]

First trackday 2008 in the end of may.
http://www.1098-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10881&d=1213904297

[Duey848]

No pics of the duc til the photographer sends the CD for me of my first trackday on the 848 but here's a few on my sv.

http://www.duey170.smugmug.com/photos/316235887_nnMXq-L.jpg

http://duey170.smugmug.com/photos/184379060_Nac4f-L.jpg
http://duey170.smugmug.com/photos/316232682_MFZfy-L.jpg
http://duey170.smugmug.com/photos/316238133_uX3se-L.jpg

[A Fire Inside]

Nice pics! I'm digging the Acerbis headlight on the SV:thumbup

[mad modder]

some better pics
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/hardcharger_photos/bike_pics/my%20bike/CP__7442.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/hardcharger_photos/bike_pics/my%20bike/CP__6580.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/hardcharger_photos/bike_pics/my%20bike/CP__6386.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j300/hardcharger_photos/bike_pics/my%20bike/CP__5470.jpg

[Trinity636]

One from a CCS race in April on my Kawi 636...

[mcskeeto]

VIR TPM track day

[Roadrunner]

First one of me on the Duc

http://ASphoto.smugmug.com/photos/312660284_r2Mxf-M.jpg

[Duey848]

http://duey170.smugmug.com/photos/320621733_wQFz9-L.jpg
http://duey170.smugmug.com/photos/320622697_ZfuzW-L.jpg
http://duey170.smugmug.com/photos/320623704_EkdFT-L.jpg

[pedro]

a couple:thumbup

[pedro]

again:mock

[Ducatibomber]

A couple pics from this year racing...
Ride safe,
AAron

[Pamani]

okay, my kne is not down, but in can be. :yes

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/jgallagher/Bike/Palomar%20Mountain/July%2013%202008/p3sm.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/jgallagher/Bike/Palomar%20Mountain/July%2013%202008/p1crsm.jpg

[gsribhud]

Here's my kneedown on track day at Thailand Circuit.


you went to thailand with your 1098?

[trashtalk]

okay, my kne is not down, but in can be. :yes

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/jgallagher/Bike/Palomar%20Mountain/July%2013%202008/p3sm.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/jgallagher/Bike/Palomar%20Mountain/July%2013%202008/p1crsm.jpg
thats a b/a pic knee down or not:thumbup

[DesmoConteMax]

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7180/05070880035kl9.jpg


http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2761/050708a6515jl5.jpg

[Pamani]

thats a b/a pic knee down or not:thumbup


thanks!:thumbup

[njlamber]

Here I am on the R1 (carousel at RA) and the Gixxer (turn 9 at Putnam Park)

[HurricaneDuc]

http://www.rickclemson.com/Photo_Details.asp?PhotoID=34835&EventID=257

[stimacsays]

Thunderhill

[Hwy1&17]

Thunderhill

cool, from Montana to thunderhill. that's a long hall.
they repaved it this year, pretty smooth these days :thumbup

eddy

[stimacsays]

cool, from Montana to thunderhill. that's a long hall.
they repaved it this year, pretty smooth these days :thumbup

eddy
Eddy, it was cool! We had a 4 week holiday, and raced/track dayd across the west to finish up with the AMA SBs at Laguna Seca. So glad we did it. I started a thread in the pictures section about it, but I am slow. Thunderhill was at the end of week 2, and I am just finishing week one.
Ted

[kamran]

:twisted
:twisted
:twisted
Left & Right:

[markthebike]

Yesterday at Phillip Island racetrack. :)

[BLARNEY]

Here you go...

http://home.comcast.net/~t2.tracey/T2_Gixer_Junior.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg19/BLARNEY_album/Track%20Photos/302976118_8u877-O.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg19/BLARNEY_album/Track%20Photos/2006_Ducati_749s.jpg


Enjoy !

[stimacsays]

Tom, as my bud the welder would say, "Ten and two you fool, ten and two!!"

Nice photos.

[kamran]

Fooling around with Microsoft Photo Editor today...

[sethyy]

Here's a few from my first track day (with the 1098).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/ImperialRed/pueblo1.jpg



first time i see bushes and trees right next to a race track... :hung

[gbianchi]

misano circuit, Italy
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1282/8421803124ga7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

adria circuit, Italy

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5103/71004102200mk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[CrazyHair]

A little something..:thumbup

[jonjon83]

buttonwillow,CA first track day

http://i42.tinypic.com/2cgh2k5.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2hcnedf.jpg

[Hwy1&17]

buttonwillow,CA first track day

http://i42.tinypic.com/2cgh2k5.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2hcnedf.jpg


nicely done, was that just recently? we've been having such good weather lately I've been aching for some tracktime :cool

[jonjon83]

nicely done, was that just recently? we've been having such good weather lately I've been aching for some tracktime :cool

thanks, and it was back in august. yeah the weather has been great ive been wanting to get sum track days in but no $$$.

[Bob s]

Me at Knockhill 08 !

[nicholasm617]

i think i know you duey, did you used to have a scion xb and u were on boston-motorsports.com???

btw nice headlight, i have the same one on my monster 620No pics of the duc til the photographer sends the CD for me of my first trackday on the 848 but here's a few on my sv.

http://www.duey170.smugmug.com/photos/316235887_nnMXq-L.jpg

http://duey170.smugmug.com/photos/184379060_Nac4f-L.jpg
http://duey170.smugmug.com/photos/316232682_MFZfy-L.jpg
http://duey170.smugmug.com/photos/316238133_uX3se-L.jpg

[tye1138]

This is as far over as you can lean the 749R. Pegs scraping, boot scraping, fairing scraping, wheel spools dragging, knee dragging and NOT leaned off the bike very much at all. Yes, its not a very good tactic... but, we each make some mistakes, last weekend, this was mine, woops! :dunno

http://www.thebigbluebus.org/trackday/2009season/exiting4bback.jpg

[duc_848]

This is as far over as you can lean the 749R. Pegs scraping, boot scraping, fairing scraping, wheel spools dragging, knee dragging and NOT leaned off the bike very much at all. Yes, its not a very good tactic... but, we each make some mistakes, last weekend, this was mine, woops! :dunno

http://www.thebigbluebus.org/trackday/2009season/exiting4bback.jpg

dude get your ass off the seat!!!!! you being lazy? LOL:poke

[commoto]

yeah... that riding style is asking for it!

[duc_848]

I going to post this pix again since I think the photographer really found a great spot to shoot! (finally!):lol

[tye1138]

Glad to see your liking your new toy! You gonna come out to race that suckah in April? Lets see if your leaning off can make you go faster then me... ;) Hopefully I'll have my smaller fuel tank by then and won't have the issues I currently have with barley reaching the bars whilst hanging off...

And ohh... I've hung off a few times... LOL :guns

http://www.thebigbluebus.org/trackday/2008season/exiting-last-corner.jpg

[DesmoLin]

Here's one from last Friday at NJMP:

http://www.ducati-superbikes.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16329&stc=1&d=1239900919

[lekcom]

http://www.ducati-superbikes.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=92&pictureid=1511http://www.ducati-superbikes.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=92&pictureid=1509

[trev1098s]

Phillip Island a couple of weeks ago

[markthebike]

I think I was at P.I. the same day as you!!

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii16/markthebikephotos/1098R/MQ0Y7304.jpg

[trev1098s]

Monday March 30? 1st session some bloke knocked himself out cold?

[markthebike]

Yep I remember he was in the 1st slow group. I had to wait another hour before the 1st fast group session finally came around.

Hope the guy was OK.

[torerik]

Here is one from Karlskoga Sweden

[DesmoLin]

Here is one from Karlskoga Sweden

that's some serious lean angle! what kind of tires are you running...and what profile?

[RRnold]

buttonwillow,CA first track day

http://i42.tinypic.com/2cgh2k5.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2hcnedf.jpg

Nice pics! Who makes that windscreen?

[Ducatidon]

My turn, one on the Green ZX10, one on the 998, one on the 1098:

On the ZX, thats the most crazy lean angle Ive seen......

[torerik]

that's some serious lean angle! what kind of tires are you running...and what profile?

It is Superstock 1000 from European Championship on Karlskoga!
I am running Pirelli Supercorsa sc1. Not my favorite, but they are ok:)
The profile is 120/70-17 and 190/55-17

[ssacol]

Heres some pics of me at Palomar:
http://rickclemson.com/UploadScript/Gallery/CM_59576.jpg
http://rickclemson.com/UploadScript/Gallery/_MG_50520.jpg
http://rickclemson.com/UploadScript/Gallery/_MG_50525.jpg
http://rickclemson.com/UploadScript/Gallery/_MG_50496.jpg

[TuningFork]

Went to Fontana yesterday and got the elbow down for the first time!
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/anbrow/TrackMay01750.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/anbrow/TrackMay01250.jpg

[christopherr1]

Pics look bad bro, I heard you got good lap times....:thumbup

[ducduc]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c361/blklexus74/SBP_7157.jpg

[tye1138]

Went to Fontana yesterday and got the elbow down for the first time!
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/anbrow/TrackMay01750.jpg

I've got one of those as well...

http://www.madducracing.com/images/precrash2.jpg

[lekcom]

http://www.ducati-superbikes.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=92&pictureid=1570tires were 90 laps old back wheel was sliding comming around the left hander normaly get 30 laps out of a tire money problems so practice on old tire was fun but very slippery times were down about 1.5 seconds slower but learned alot and boy was i tried at the end of the day

[emullo]

http://www.ducati-superbikes.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=218&pictureid=1656

Pic of me and 2 friends.
Pretty cool with three generation of superbikes in one pic.
First bike i our Endurance 748R with 999S engine, next 999S and then my 1098S.

[lekcom]

i like very cool picture three generation

[emullo]

Another trackday with the new paint scheme and new leathers. :-)

[Velocemoto]

Few from me..

http://www.mvagusta.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=6019&stc=1&d=1164425460

Quent on 1198s
http://www.velocemoto.net/tracks/Brdfrd%202009_06.jpg

Chuck on 1098s
http://www.velocemoto.net/tracks/Brdfrd%202009_09.jpg

Phillip Island on the MV
http://www.velocemoto.net/tracks/17_11_08/image%201.jpg

[Benjamin]

Another trackday with the new paint scheme and new leathers. :-)


Sck pain job! We need to see more :)

[emullo]

Sck pain job! We need to see more :)

Ok.. Thanks :thumbup Did it myself with a couple of 2-comp spray cans and a couple of late nighters in the garage.

[fred900]

Funny how most of these pictures are from Palomar Ca.

[desmolvr]

Here are a couple funny thing is I am now trying to not touch my knee so I can go faster.

[knedrag]

New paint, same slow rider............:thumbup

[DesmoLin]

Here are some recent ones with my new track plastics:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0PDE0WyQ3Xw/SjJSiFvUjUI/AAAAAAAARIM/vR3Ngh5-66k/s800/ZF-1568-89924-1-001.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_0PDE0WyQ3Xw/SjJSiUXfuWI/AAAAAAAARIQ/vXTUWyNKXyM/s800/ZF-1568-89924-1-002.jpg

[SteveNunez]

Desmolin- that suit is beautiful!

[DesmoLin]

Desmolin- that suit is beautiful!

Thanks! It's actually an older model (2007) called the Flanker.

[Trent1098S]

My turn finally! Yes.. I know I need to work on getting my upper body lower.

[Kevin999]

Dont you just hate it when they cut off perfectly good leathers
it's called knee slider, children....

[stimacsays]

BWhip took them at Miller 6-1-09
Im still slow, but my bike looks Kick Ass.
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr116/stimacsays/6-1-09%20trackday%20at%20Miller/6-1-09trackdayatMiller042.jpg
http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr116/stimacsays/6-1-09%20trackday%20at%20Miller/6-1-09trackdayatMiller017.jpg

[mad modder]

great shots, i can't wait to ride that track. HELL YES!!!

[stimacsays]

Thanks Joe. I cant wait to ride that track at your track day with you! I hope Kneedragger from BellissiMoto can fly in. New tires on the Speed 4 today Randy. What do you say?

[ozducati]

Eastern Creek raceway, Sydney Australia

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/Michael2511/ec6.jpg

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/Michael2511/Knee-down.jpg

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/Michael2511/240409JPM_700.jpg http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/Michael2511/240409JPM_701.jpghttp://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/Michael2511/240409JPM_702.jpg

Phillip Island

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/Michael2511/PI-2.jpg

[lekcom]

beautiful shots love it

[Mac D]

Me at Zandvoort with my last GSX-R 750 K7 :ninja

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7261/macd2.jpg

And one with my first GSX-R 750 K7 :

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7422/macd.jpg


Still no kneedowns with the 1098S ..
For some stupid reason I can't get it to work :bangwall

[MpoweredM]

Just coming out of the turn..
http://www.pbase.com/mpoweredm3/image/114545645/original.jpg

[Hellboy]

My first time....:yahoo

[ducati darius]

Me at Zandvoort with my last GSX-R 750 K7 :ninja

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7261/macd2.jpg

And one with my first GSX-R 750 K7 :

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7422/macd.jpg


Still no kneedowns with the 1098S ..
For some stupid reason I can't get it to work :bangwallJudging by these pics must be the riding position on the Duc, cuz you look great on the Gixxer, post pic of you on the Duc and these guys on here can get you sorted out!:thumbup

[flasher2001]

VIR North Course on my '01 929

http://lh3.ggpht.com/__5N1VeJ8uUU/Sk_qF0f8AhI/AAAAAAAAA8o/C5jQCoN-Bcs/s512/flasher2001orig.jpg

[sethyy]

L'Anneau du Rhin
http://www.sportfoto-trescher.de/2009/rentraining/09_34_adr/weiss/images/09-34-1577%20.jpg


In the right order
http://www.sportfoto-trescher.de/2009/rentraining/09_34_adr/weiss/images/09-34-1678%20.jpg

[Franken]

Gingerman MI

[Ducatidon]

My turn...

One on my ZX10R, and one on the 1098s:

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/ducatidon998/_d8b5624_std.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii144/ducatidon998/518013080__mcs4420.jpg

[MpoweredM]

Second track day successfully finished. :)
http://www.pbase.com/mpoweredm3/image/115980252/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/mpoweredm3/image/115980657/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/mpoweredm3/image/115980698/original.jpg

[AKKutz]

Dude, we get the point....how many times are you going to post your second track day picts!???????:hammerhead

[Grayson]

Dude, we get the point....how many times are you going to post your second track day picts!???????:hammerhead


Havent you heard the 4th time gets the job done!:punch

[MpoweredM]

I've been searching for every thread possible! Can you link me to a few more to post in? :)

[Grayson]

DILLIGAF.com

[Trent1098S]

Forgot that I had some new content for the thread.. :)


http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv17/Trent1098S/595553182_dsc_8071.jpg

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv17/Trent1098S/595553747_dsc_8072.jpg

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv17/Trent1098S/595555648_dsc_8214.jpg

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv17/Trent1098S/595556400_dsc_8215.jpg

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv17/Trent1098S/MK4_4763.jpg

This last one isn't a kneedown pic but I like it because A) it shows off my new Brembo rotors, and B) it shows the shiney side of my bike :-)

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv17/Trent1098S/LMS_9806.jpg

[subbie79]

Pacific Raceway, Auburn WA

[Velocemoto]

Broadford Circuit, Turn 1. Australia

[2000750]

:blink

[xxx]

Great pics guys .....here's a couple of the old guy beatin up on the experts ........

Roebling Road


http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff1/wicked1098s/WERA-Roebling-July-79Medium.jpg


http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff1/wicked1098s/WERA-Roebling-July-152.jpg


http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff1/wicked1098s/WERA-Roebling-July-39Medium.jpg


Road Atlanta

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff1/wicked1098s/WERA-RoadAtlanta-July-15Medium.jpg


Palm Beach

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff1/wicked1098s/808-03Medium2.jpg


http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff1/wicked1098s/808-23Medium-1.jpg


Jennings Gp


http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff1/wicked1098s/rztMedium.jpg


cheers

[MpoweredM]

Another day at Summit....
http://www.pbase.com/mpoweredm3/image/116560504/original.jpg

[desmolvr]

A few from Buttonwillow in central cali, not the greatest track but it is close and less expensive then most.

[MpoweredM]

Out and about around town...
http://www.pbase.com/mpoweredm3/image/117215921/original.jpg

[2000750]

Another trip to Deals Gap...another spot on the highlights. :)

killboy.com photos - The Original Photographer from Hwy US129 Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap (http://killboy.blogspot.com/)

[stimacsays]

Hey Bud, your in the headlines in Colorado also. Who is this? Haha. Beter stop by and say Hi.
http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36027

[2000750]

Hahahaha....that's great. Thanks for the link Stimac. I never check the pics/vids forum on CSC and would have missed that for sure.

I was going to ask...I saw you made your way down to HPR. What did you think of the track? I hope you enjoyed it and will be able to come down again!